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this is a choice election. this is about electing a president who believes in building an economy from the middle out and not the top down. this is about voting to reelect the president who does believe in the 47% or voting for a governor who has a disdain for the 47%. so we will not relent in the state of ohio. we're going to come out. we're fired up and ready to go. we will help president obama make history again. >> senator, what about the 9-point advantage that president obama has in the most recent polls? you have some enthusiastic people behind you tonight. but president obama has had a good lead in ohio and now it's been opened up in one poll by nine points. are you concerned about overconfidence? the columbus dispatch ohio poll has obama at 51% and romney at 42%. how crucial is early voting when you look at this this number? >> it's very crucial, ed. although i'm pleased the president is up by nine points. it's important folks come out to vote. the final count is when people cast their ballots and not n
this is a choice election. this is about electing a president who believes in building an economy from the middle out and not the top down. this is about voting to reelect the president who does believe in the 47% or voting for a governor who has a disdain for the 47%. so we will not relent in the state of ohio. we're going to come out. we're fired up and ready to go. we will help president obama make history again. >> senator, what about the 9-point advantage that president obama has in...
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thruling only covers thi election. the decision is bad news for repuicanin pennsylvani r thearlie year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., whi is gog to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 stateto pass rerictive new voting laws since president obama won in 2008. so far 17 states have successfully pasd restrictive votesing laws since president oba won the white hous republicans in ohio tried e gop tried to purge the voter roles in florida. the republicans have cimed all along they are try stop voter fraud. but look what happens. it turns outhey are the ones who were cheating. a t out the vote scandal is rocking the republican p. sttegic allied consulting s er . now theyre firinthe firm. florida has turned up 100 suspicious voterorms and in colorado one worker was caught on tape claiming s worked r you work for romney >> i thought you we rej sterg voters. >> i am. who areou registering? all voters? >> i'm
thruling only covers thi election. the decision is bad news for repuicanin pennsylvani r thearlie year one of the party leaders boasted the law would help mitt romney win the election. >> voter i.d., whi is gog to allow mitt romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> pennsylvania is just one of 41 stateto pass rerictive new voting laws since president obama won in 2008. so far 17 states have successfully pasd restrictive votesing laws since president oba won the white hous...
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from going into effect before the november election. after it was revealed that hundreds of thousands of voters face the real pocket that they would not be allowed to vote. but now this unjust law will not be in effect on election day in this critical swing state. it's a stunning rebuke to republicans and their shameless attempt to rig the system. just remember one of those state top gop lawmakers slipped up and said what these laws are all about. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow governor romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> sorry. it's not done. not anymore. not on our watch. not when we have our say. folks, the fight is far from over. under this ruling, the law's merely been delayed. not dismantled. across the country, republicans are fighting to keep their laws on the books. and they're dreaming up new ways to cheat the system. we've told you about the voter fraud scandal surrounding gop operative nathan sprool. now the investigation is taking the federal level with judge cunningham demanding answers about phoney a
from going into effect before the november election. after it was revealed that hundreds of thousands of voters face the real pocket that they would not be allowed to vote. but now this unjust law will not be in effect on election day in this critical swing state. it's a stunning rebuke to republicans and their shameless attempt to rig the system. just remember one of those state top gop lawmakers slipped up and said what these laws are all about. >> voter i.d., which is going to allow...
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elect your champion. paul romney, who will be the nominee? >> welcome to obamaville. >> fight! ♪ >> clean coal! clean coal! >> excellent. >> flawless victory. that's just one of slate's awesome new political videos. also romney versus obama. videos of joe biden v. paul ryan. the battle royal still to come. spoofs are a fun way the digital age has changed the campaigns and also a serious impact. think about it. twitter was still relatively fledgling four years ago. tonight for the first time, instant reaction from the crowd could shape the national post-debate conversation. just as much as the opinions of journalists and pundits do. so, let's do what journalists and pundits do and talk about it. i think, you know, twitter and -- and i mentioned this yesterday in "the rant," i mean, twitter is a really fun way to watch a debate. live tweeting through it, see what other people have to say. but it's also really changed the sperngs. you know, as we tease there, you get instant reaction to real-time events. it's completely democraticized the experience of getting news and watching
elect your champion. paul romney, who will be the nominee? >> welcome to obamaville. >> fight! ♪ >> clean coal! clean coal! >> excellent. >> flawless victory. that's just one of slate's awesome new political videos. also romney versus obama. videos of joe biden v. paul ryan. the battle royal still to come. spoofs are a fun way the digital age has changed the campaigns and also a serious impact. think about it. twitter was still relatively fledgling four years...
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he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well. we're going to learn something about winning in a good old state like ohio. >>> republicans have been searching without success over the country for voter fraud, and now they finally found it in their own campaign. the biggest case of alleged registration fraud in the country, and the republicans are caught paying for it and holding the bag. we can't wait to get to that one. >>> we're going to visit that parallel republican universe where mitt romney leads, by the way, in every poll in that universe. the republicans really believe in a liberal conspiracy involving all the pollsters of this country left and right, even the fox pollsters? maybe they just don't accept the legitimacy of a democratic president, any democratic president. >>> let me finish with my belief that presidential debates are often unfair and almost always unpredictable. this is "hardball," th
he's running for re-election up in ohio. but he's got karl rove money machine, whole money machine coming at him, and he's taking him on pretty well. he's doing well. we're going to learn something about winning in a good old state like ohio. >>> republicans have been searching without success over the country for voter fraud, and now they finally found it in their own campaign. the biggest case of alleged registration fraud in the country, and the republicans are caught paying for it...
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law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are going to be more problems down the road putting this into effect like we've already seen, he says. he believes that the gap between the photo i.d.'s issued and the estimated need cannot be closed before the election. in other words, he says all the people who would have to get new photo i.d.s, he doubts there is enough time for them to get them. he says i'm not convinced in my predictive judgment there won't be any voter disenfranchisement arising out of this new law. pennsylvania in march passed this new law requiring voter i.d.s. people started going to get them and the state said, w
law cannot go in effect for the general election. there is a chance the state could appeal this to the state's supreme court, but based on what the supreme court said last time they looked at this, it's doubtful they would succeed there. what the judge says here is yes, it's true. the state has said we can fix some of the problems that have come up before, but he says, i question whether there is enough time now to fix these problems. i think there are going to be more problems down the road...
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we'll tell you after the election. you're attacking romney for the same thing. >> i want to talk about the gas prices. one thing that was striking, speaker gingrich, is what some were arguing about the actual numbers. jack welch made a lot of headlines with a tweet that said, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so they change the numbers without any substantiation. he was on "hardball" with chris matthews and this is how he explained it. >> i've reviewed 14 businesses this week. from restaurants to widgets. i have seen everybody with a third quarter equal to or weaker than the first quarter. in order to get 873,000 new jobs, you would have to have a g.d.p. going at 4% to 5%. the second quarter was downgraded from 1.7% to 1.3%. the third quarter is not going to be very strong. it just defies the imagination to have a surge larger than any surge since 1983 a month before the election. i leave it to you to do all the analysis. >> one of the most important ceos in america. formerly
we'll tell you after the election. you're attacking romney for the same thing. >> i want to talk about the gas prices. one thing that was striking, speaker gingrich, is what some were arguing about the actual numbers. jack welch made a lot of headlines with a tweet that said, unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate so they change the numbers without any substantiation. he was on "hardball" with chris matthews and this is how he explained it....
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it may not be true in subsequent elections in the state after this, but for this election, it's okay. republicans in the state of pennsylvania tried this year to block you from voting if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that, but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday, and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania and asked some questions about voting there in that state this year. this is what we got. listen to this. it's amazing. remember, legally you can vote even if you don't have an i.d. in pennsylvania in this election. you can. listen. >> thank you for calling the pennsylvania department of state bureau of commissions, elections, and legislation. press one for english. [ speaking in foreign language ] press one for information on pennsylvania's new voter i.d. law. press two for -- [ bleep ] >> hello. all pennsylvania voters will be required to show a photo i.d. before voting at a polling place beginning with the november 2012 general electi
it may not be true in subsequent elections in the state after this, but for this election, it's okay. republicans in the state of pennsylvania tried this year to block you from voting if you don't have a driver's license or another i.d. like that, but they didn't get away with that new law. a judge ruled this week the new rule about i.d. will not be in effect for this election. but yesterday, and this was the scoop, we called the state of pennsylvania and asked some questions about voting there...
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that is the choice in this election and that is why i'm running for a second term. that's what we need. [ cheers and applause ] now, my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition and got an extreme makeover, but the bottom line is his underlying philosophy is the top down economics that we've seen before. he think that is if we just spend another $5 trillion on tax cuts, that, yes, skew towards the wealthiest, if we get rid of more regulations on wall street, then our problems will be involved. jobs and prosperity will rain down from the sky, the deficits will magically disappear, we will live happily ever after. even though he's been proposing this plan for months now, he's had a little trouble explaining just how it would work without blowing a hole in the deficit or making middle class families pick up the tab. the other night he ruled out asking millionaires and billionaires to pay even a dime more in taxes. he said there's no way that he'd close the loophole that gives big oil companies billions each year in corporate welfare. ending tax breaks fo
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we had an election in 2010 with senator michael bennett and his republican opponent, i think, that election came down to 15,000 vote es. you never know. you can't predict what's going to happen on election day. >> rick polasio, great to have you with us. thanks so much. i want to thank everyone at the governor's park tavern who were there for the msnbc presidential debate eve watch party. we're heading over there right now. we're looking forward to it. that's "the ed show." the "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. good evening, rachel.
we had an election in 2010 with senator michael bennett and his republican opponent, i think, that election came down to 15,000 vote es. you never know. you can't predict what's going to happen on election day. >> rick polasio, great to have you with us. thanks so much. i want to thank everyone at the governor's park tavern who were there for the msnbc presidential debate eve watch party. we're heading over there right now. we're looking forward to it. that's "the ed show." the...
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he's a competitive guy, we know he wants to win this election, he's smart. i have to believe he is going to focus and prepare in a way he did not the first time around. >> and frankly a low bar for the president next time because he just has to be aggressive, right? that's what he wasn't in this debate. i think he can easily meet or exceed expectations just by, you know, i don't know, five-hour energy or something before he goes out there. >> thank you very much. it's great to see you, eugene, susan, mark halperin, thank you, my friend. and if you noticed a little more pink than usual in last night's game between the cardinals and rams because october is breast cancer awareness month and game and rams it's because it's breast cancer warns month. they're doing their part with a campaign to promote prevention calmed a crucial catch. thanks to tanya schneider and other women in the nfl family. all along this month you see players, coaches, owners and referees wearing pink. this is to remind women 40 and old how important it is. get your screenings every year. c
he's a competitive guy, we know he wants to win this election, he's smart. i have to believe he is going to focus and prepare in a way he did not the first time around. >> and frankly a low bar for the president next time because he just has to be aggressive, right? that's what he wasn't in this debate. i think he can easily meet or exceed expectations just by, you know, i don't know, five-hour energy or something before he goes out there. >> thank you very much. it's great to see...
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he's going to be elected president on november 6. and then from there lead our country back to greatness. and believe me, if i took seriously judgment of my speeches by those two, i would not be in business for very long. >> governor chris christie, we'll leave it there. thank you as always. >> great to be with you, david. >>> let me now turn to the president's senior adviser david plouffe. welcome back. >> good morning, david. >> governor christie says thursday morning the entire narrative of the race will change after the debates. looks like romney is expecting a good showing. >> i think governor christie is articulating what governor romney's campaign believes, that they'll change this race fundamentally. they talk about how this will be like 1980 and reagan surged to a huge lead. that's really the marker here. they set it out. they expect to come out of this with the race fundamentally changed. what does that mean? if it's going to fundamentally change that means in seven or 10 days from now you'll see states like ohio tied and i
he's going to be elected president on november 6. and then from there lead our country back to greatness. and believe me, if i took seriously judgment of my speeches by those two, i would not be in business for very long. >> governor chris christie, we'll leave it there. thank you as always. >> great to be with you, david. >>> let me now turn to the president's senior adviser david plouffe. welcome back. >> good morning, david. >> governor christie says thursday...
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welcome to "the ed show" live from minneapolis. 32 days until the 2012 election. the unemployment rate hits its lowest level in four years and republicans hate it. tonight we rip off their tin foil hats. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> you don't think it's coincidental that we've got the biggest surge since 1983 and in the job surge? come on, chris. >> the conspiracy theorists are howling tonight. we'll get the truth on today's huge jobs report. with former president of ubs investment bank robert wolffe and democratic strategist bob shrumpf. a republican talking point died a bloody death today. >> the obama administration promised that unemployment would not exceed 8%. >> would not exceed 8%. >> unemployment under 8%. >> below 8%. >> tonight a requiem for the 8% promise. the mitt romney coal miner story got even uglier today. we'll talk to the author of a new report that claims the owner of the ohio mine mitt romney visited forced workers to donate to the romney campaign. and the legendary actor lavar burton is mad at mitt romney for going after big b
welcome to "the ed show" live from minneapolis. 32 days until the 2012 election. the unemployment rate hits its lowest level in four years and republicans hate it. tonight we rip off their tin foil hats. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >> you don't think it's coincidental that we've got the biggest surge since 1983 and in the job surge? come on, chris. >> the conspiracy theorists are howling tonight. we'll get the truth on today's huge jobs report. with...
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and i think that's the fork in the road in this election. whether it's a senate race in ohio or whether the presidential race nationally. >> senator, you to look in the camera and answer me directly. will barack obama and sherrod brown will ohio? >> yeah, i think we both will. so goes ohio, so goes the nation. and president obama is doing well here because he makes a distinction. are you for the middle class or are you for helping the 47% and hoping it trickles down. and the voters don't think that way. the voters ultimately dwont look at conservative/liberal, they look at who is on your side and it's pretty clear in the race for the senate and ohio, that's why so many people are coming up to sherrod brown.com and signing up to help us and it's pretty clear with the presidential race. p. >> no republican ever won without winning ohio. senator share read brown, thanks for your time tonight. >> my pleasure. thanks reverend al. >>> still ahead, save big bird. he's now working for food. he's on the unemployment line. so what is with governor rom
and i think that's the fork in the road in this election. whether it's a senate race in ohio or whether the presidential race nationally. >> senator, you to look in the camera and answer me directly. will barack obama and sherrod brown will ohio? >> yeah, i think we both will. so goes ohio, so goes the nation. and president obama is doing well here because he makes a distinction. are you for the middle class or are you for helping the 47% and hoping it trickles down. and the voters...
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voted in local elections when i was in school. i know many people who get to know they certainly campaign on college campuses and tack about what they're going to do for the local community. this is an issue that we see time and time again. it's about people feeling students do not belong but students are a huge asset for the ways i just mentioned and, above all in new hampshire, the state speaker of the house was talking about the fact that the student population there does not belong and that they were going to pay -- not pay taxes and that they were going to help take people who lived in the state of new hampshire and drowned out their voice. >> it want to ask you one more question on the dorm room edition. you talked about the permanent residency piece. doesn't that have truetician repper discussions. if you declare yourself a permanent resident of a state where you're attending the state university and you were an out of state student paying out of state tuition, there are rules about just being able to declare oneself a perm
voted in local elections when i was in school. i know many people who get to know they certainly campaign on college campuses and tack about what they're going to do for the local community. this is an issue that we see time and time again. it's about people feeling students do not belong but students are a huge asset for the ways i just mentioned and, above all in new hampshire, the state speaker of the house was talking about the fact that the student population there does not belong and that...
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bush when he was accepting the republican nomination for re-election. now, the five points were in a different order in this speech, in the actual speech. small businesses were mentioned twice. you get the picture in all of this. bush also repeatedly mentioned no child left behind even though it wasn't one of the five points. we need to see president obama dismantle romney as more of the same and dismantle these romney lies. here's the president in wisconsin today. >> whoever it was that was on stage last night doesn't want to be held accountable for what the real mitt romney's been saying for the last year, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. >> let's bring in sam stein, political reporter for "huffington post" and also e.j. dionne, msnbc contributor, and author of the book "our divided political heart. gentlemen, great to have you with us tonight. don't we need to see more of president obama, what we saw today, the next time he shares the stage with mitt romney? can we afford to see more of the same? >> oh, i t
bush when he was accepting the republican nomination for re-election. now, the five points were in a different order in this speech, in the actual speech. small businesses were mentioned twice. you get the picture in all of this. bush also repeatedly mentioned no child left behind even though it wasn't one of the five points. we need to see president obama dismantle romney as more of the same and dismantle these romney lies. here's the president in wisconsin today. >> whoever it was that...
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we think we've got the numbers to win an election. but it's going to be exceedingly tough at the end. we expect it to tighten. our entire campaign is built on the premise, we've got 53% of the vote in 2008 under ideal circumstances, so we've always believed it's going to be closer than 2008 and so i expect that we're going to see in the weeks to come this race will tighten a little bit. >> i want to talk about issues, including a foreign policy crisis in libya and the fact that this administration has changed its tune when it comes to describing the raid on our compound on our embassy in libya that killed our ambassador, chris stevens and others on the ground. on september 16th, the u.n. ambassador for this administration came on this program and this is how she described whether or not this was a deliberate act, a terrorist attack. this is what sizen wright said at that time. >> let me tell you best information we have at present. first of all, there's an fbi investigation which is ongoing and we look to that investigation to give us
we think we've got the numbers to win an election. but it's going to be exceedingly tough at the end. we expect it to tighten. our entire campaign is built on the premise, we've got 53% of the vote in 2008 under ideal circumstances, so we've always believed it's going to be closer than 2008 and so i expect that we're going to see in the weeks to come this race will tighten a little bit. >> i want to talk about issues, including a foreign policy crisis in libya and the fact that this...
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there is no day off when it's 29 days until the november election. if mitt romney is going to be president of the united states, then next week, iowa and ohio will be coin flip races. we're seeing a more confidence mitt romney on the trail. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. you had the chance to hear his answers or non answers. now, of course, days later, we're hearing his excuses. >> but while the romney campaign body language has changed, both are anxiously awaiting the first good post debate polls. those will give us our first look at the race after the debate and the friday unemployment report. plus, where will romney be when the results of those polls begin to come in. will he be in coin flip races in places like ohio, iowa and wisconsin? where will the president's number be? still sitting at 49 or 50 or have fallen down to 47, 48? national tracks are one thing. battleground states are another. tuesday, romney stumps virginia, then ohio with chris christie in cuyahoga falls. in three straight rallies in florida, h
there is no day off when it's 29 days until the november election. if mitt romney is going to be president of the united states, then next week, iowa and ohio will be coin flip races. we're seeing a more confidence mitt romney on the trail. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. you had the chance to hear his answers or non answers. now, of course, days later, we're hearing his excuses. >> but while the romney campaign body language has changed, both are...
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and i think the election is still going to be decided on jobs. >> all right. governor john sununu, former governor of new hampshire. nice to talk with you. >> thank you. >>> next, we'll hear from the obama camp on this expectations game. what's at stake for the president? the dnc chairwoman will be here. >>> plus a judge is set to rule on whether a voter i.d. law that could swing a state that hasn't been a swing state but maybe put it is back in if it's put into place. and ballots are now being cast in another key battleground state. up to 35 states voting now. >>> today's trivia question. which politician has participated in the most general election presidential debates? tweet me the answer @ chucktodd. we'll be right back. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 let's talk about low-cost investing. tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 at schwab, we're committed to offering you tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 low-cost investment options-- tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 like our exchange traded funds, or etfs tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 which now have the lowest tdd#: 1-800-345-2550 operating expenses tdd#: 1-800-345-255
and i think the election is still going to be decided on jobs. >> all right. governor john sununu, former governor of new hampshire. nice to talk with you. >> thank you. >>> next, we'll hear from the obama camp on this expectations game. what's at stake for the president? the dnc chairwoman will be here. >>> plus a judge is set to rule on whether a voter i.d. law that could swing a state that hasn't been a swing state but maybe put it is back in if it's put into...
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than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many, many weeks, it was really quiet here. and it was only after they chose paul ryan as his vice presidential candidate that he started spending money here. so we're seeing advertising for both camps, so you're also seeing a president making a concerted effort. the president's been here twice in the last three weeks. i'm very confident that he's going to win. >> bill clinton, he's a big factor in the race, he campaigned for you in the recall electi election. >> well, i think he's a great asset and you can send bill clinton anywhere in this country and p
than in any of the previously election. that always brings a lot of students out. but they're working very, very hard here, the obama campaign has got a very, very strong game in wisconsin. >> any change in the environment since the recall election versus what's going to happen in five weeks plus? >> i think it has changed tremendously, there was a huge financial advantage for the republicans and the recall. although mitt romney has now begun spending here in wisconsin for many,...
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if you want a better president elect a better congress. that is the real lesson of the last two years. >> certainly the questions will be many. the answers perhaps few. we'll see. coming up, the numbers game. electorally speaking not all roads lead to 270 but there are different routes to get there. some are super highways and others are more scenic. as chuck todd mapped out last week. >> florida still matters big. if the president wins it it's check mate. no path without florida. go for these scenarios, if he's going to crede ohio, and that's what's gone on the move of ohio where romney cannot seem to connect with white working-class voters, he's doing the bus trip, but the move of ohio that suddenly means he has to win florida and virginia. >> we will compare governor romney's narrow path with president obama's increasingly widening lane next on "now." [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're
if you want a better president elect a better congress. that is the real lesson of the last two years. >> certainly the questions will be many. the answers perhaps few. we'll see. coming up, the numbers game. electorally speaking not all roads lead to 270 but there are different routes to get there. some are super highways and others are more scenic. as chuck todd mapped out last week. >> florida still matters big. if the president wins it it's check mate. no path without florida....
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i love election season. if you like politics, if you like presidential politics, this is a huge night. we don't know what's going to happen but i would say, look, we know we're going to have lots and lots of people watching, very high stakes. and what happens tonight, as you point out, i think it is not just the 90 minutes in denver, it's what happens after that, how the debate is cast, how it's saved by voters, how it's received by folks who are already decided, how it's decided by folks who haven't decided yet some, we are into debate season. i could not be more excited. >> and it's pretty late for debate season. we are talking about october, not september. this is very little margin for error, very limb room for them to make up for any problems they may make. we will see the president tomorrow in denver at a rally, then he goes wisconsin, interestingly, and then mitt romney heads to virginia. so, he will be with paul ryan, the team together again in virginia. the importance of virginia, we have seen in th
i love election season. if you like politics, if you like presidential politics, this is a huge night. we don't know what's going to happen but i would say, look, we know we're going to have lots and lots of people watching, very high stakes. and what happens tonight, as you point out, i think it is not just the 90 minutes in denver, it's what happens after that, how the debate is cast, how it's saved by voters, how it's received by folks who are already decided, how it's decided by folks who...
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which is more important on election day? >> all that plus i'll tell you how the debates are like chocolate cake. you're "the cycle" for monday and yes, it's october 1st.
which is more important on election day? >> all that plus i'll tell you how the debates are like chocolate cake. you're "the cycle" for monday and yes, it's october 1st.
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i'll start with an elected official. the people that worked for the president had to come out and say he did well. everyone else said he didn't. >> i was in the hall so i can say i haven't seen it on tv. but on the substance, in colorado, we're a third republican and a third democratic and a third independent and we don't like people to say one thing in boston, one in denver and one thing in rural and one thing in urban and i think we heard more of that from mitt romney. >> who called him on that? we went an hour and a half before i went -- a couple days ago he talked about the pre-existing coverage and now you're saying you have a program and i'm going to take nationally based on the principles of massachusetts. >> i'll you another example that infuriates me. this $716 billion medicare issue in ryan's plan. >> the number? >> yeah. romney tonight said the reason he thinks we ought to have a voucher system for medicare is government never does anything efficiently and the first thing he says about the reform is he's takin
i'll start with an elected official. the people that worked for the president had to come out and say he did well. everyone else said he didn't. >> i was in the hall so i can say i haven't seen it on tv. but on the substance, in colorado, we're a third republican and a third democratic and a third independent and we don't like people to say one thing in boston, one in denver and one thing in rural and one thing in urban and i think we heard more of that from mitt romney. >> who...
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is this going to affect the outcome in florida, which, you know, election to election, you never know. you never know in florida, do you? >> florida, florida, florida. >> right. >> that's right. and a inger are inis right. i think it does show kind of the amount of attention that both campaigns are putting on a key state in trying to work the margins in a race that could be razor-thin. and florida is vital for certainly for romney. there is other pathways for obama to win without florida. but if he wins florida, it makes it extremely difficult for romney to win overall. so i think that's where we're seeing the biggest battle on all types of fronts, including these voter registration laws. >> all right. matt vizer of the boston globe, and erin mcpike of real clear politics, thank you so much. >> thank you. >>> now for a little trail dust where. you play -- that you may have missed from the campaign trail. yesterday president obama made a rain-soaked appearance in cleveland, ohio. he poked fun at governor romney's suggestion in wednesday's debate that he would defund pbs, the home of "s
is this going to affect the outcome in florida, which, you know, election to election, you never know. you never know in florida, do you? >> florida, florida, florida. >> right. >> that's right. and a inger are inis right. i think it does show kind of the amount of attention that both campaigns are putting on a key state in trying to work the margins in a race that could be razor-thin. and florida is vital for certainly for romney. there is other pathways for obama to win...
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i am sure they know the election calendar, the producer is a smart guy, he knows the elections, but by that time, 35% at least of the american public will have already cast a ballot. the remaining 65 or so who have not cast a ballot, if we can squeeze out 1 to 2% undecided, i will be shocked. everybody else will be locked in. and how many of those percentages will be watching the national geographic? i like them, but it is a small audience. >> compared to 67% who watched the debates. >> considering the debates, give me the smart pick, joe biden or paul ryan? who is the smart pick? >> you know, joe biden was a much better debater in 2008 than people remember. so i think if he can avoid gaffes, which is a pretty big "if" with the vp, he should be able to deliver, and paul ryan can be a little too much of a policy wonk. >> let me ask you this, do the vice presidential debates really matter? >> hardly ever, in fact, i can't think of one except the bob dole, remarking about the wars, world war i and ii, but by and large, i don't think they are much more than entertainment, although they're
i am sure they know the election calendar, the producer is a smart guy, he knows the elections, but by that time, 35% at least of the american public will have already cast a ballot. the remaining 65 or so who have not cast a ballot, if we can squeeze out 1 to 2% undecided, i will be shocked. everybody else will be locked in. and how many of those percentages will be watching the national geographic? i like them, but it is a small audience. >> compared to 67% who watched the debates....
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law the judge has blocked, at least for this general election. what do you make of those two states that you know especially well? >> well, pennsylvania, i think the voter i.d. law had the potential to affect 50, 100,000 votes. that's wiped away now. pretty clear that president obama is going to carry pennsylvania. what the surprise is ohio. always a tossup state. even in the poll today, which showed governor romney narrowing it in virginia and florida. ohio state at eight points f p if ohio folks don't move in the next days after the debate, time for romney folks to cash in ohio. >> you take the media hit for a couple of days there, but ohio, pennsylvania, they represent a type of voter or a group of voters would know romney needs. tries to make up ground on the auto bailouts saying that is not exactly what i meant at the time, i was really in line with what played out there, we know it was not but the type of voter or the group of voters in ohio that we have talked so much about, white males in particular, working class, middle class people, th
law the judge has blocked, at least for this general election. what do you make of those two states that you know especially well? >> well, pennsylvania, i think the voter i.d. law had the potential to affect 50, 100,000 votes. that's wiped away now. pretty clear that president obama is going to carry pennsylvania. what the surprise is ohio. always a tossup state. even in the poll today, which showed governor romney narrowing it in virginia and florida. ohio state at eight points f p if...
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romney will be in good shape for the november election. if the debates are not enough to flip the polls in plm mr. romne favor, he would have to pull off a modern american miracle to win the election in november. chuck todd joins us from the debate site at the university of denver. chuck, what are you watching for tonight? >> the buzz word, the buzz phrase of "middle class." essentially, the reason romney is behind is because he's been losing that attribute to president obama by double-digit margins. i think it's been the most important attribute of the campaign, because it explains why is the president in a tough economic times, why has he been winning or at least neutralizing the economic argument and staying ahead in the polls. it's because he has been winning that attribute, if you will, of who's more in touch with the middle class, who looking out for the middle class. obviously, 47% was a huge body blow to romney. he was already in a deficit on this issue, of not being, looking out for the middle guy. so that, to me, is sort of how d
romney will be in good shape for the november election. if the debates are not enough to flip the polls in plm mr. romne favor, he would have to pull off a modern american miracle to win the election in november. chuck todd joins us from the debate site at the university of denver. chuck, what are you watching for tonight? >> the buzz word, the buzz phrase of "middle class." essentially, the reason romney is behind is because he's been losing that attribute to president obama by...
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where you talk about trying to predict election outcomes and forecast election outcomes. sometimes you don't need a model. ronald reagan with the economy was never going to lose, and bill clinton won't lose in 1996. you can look at other cases where the campaigns matter. do you have a sense what that exact balance is, is there a wall to quantify it like the economy and actually campaign effects? >> we do try and quantify it where our model looks at two things. there's an economic part of it and a polls part of it. the closer to election day, the more we rely purely on polls, the theory is that if by october/november whatever impact there is to the economy hasn't been reflected in the polls, either the model is wrong or people think about other things. so right now, you know, actually do expect even before the debate the polls to it tighten some, because although the incumbent president gets a lot of credit, obama was ahead by five or six points by these polls for a while. naets hi that's high based on where the economy is. in some ways the debate brings the polls more int
where you talk about trying to predict election outcomes and forecast election outcomes. sometimes you don't need a model. ronald reagan with the economy was never going to lose, and bill clinton won't lose in 1996. you can look at other cases where the campaigns matter. do you have a sense what that exact balance is, is there a wall to quantify it like the economy and actually campaign effects? >> we do try and quantify it where our model looks at two things. there's an economic part of...
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elected officials? >> absolutely. i think there's a level of optimism that immigrant communities feel about the american democracy. >> that's the word i was looking for. >> we're drawn here for very specific reasons. you know, people say that immigrants are hard working. you know, there's billions of people in india that are not -- groups have been self-selected to come to this country and be hard working and be part of this narrative. we see that optoptimism. i want to say something about arizona. it's a place where you can feel and be miserable and depress, but we had an optimistic group of people we trained in arizona. we trained 19 people, most of whom were latinos. four ran for office for school board, state senate and congress. i think that really says something about the strength of our belief in what this country offers. >> it feels to me like you also thought the civil rights movement for african-americans took the opportunity of the franchise to run for office. if you don't like those laws, yo
elected officials? >> absolutely. i think there's a level of optimism that immigrant communities feel about the american democracy. >> that's the word i was looking for. >> we're drawn here for very specific reasons. you know, people say that immigrants are hard working. you know, there's billions of people in india that are not -- groups have been self-selected to come to this country and be hard working and be part of this narrative. we see that optoptimism. i want to say...
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tried to frame the election around, or the obama team tried to frame the election around last year and hope won. they're doing it again this year, the romney team is sort of playing into their hands in terms of making this about fear, fear about your religion being taken away, fear of unrest, fear of -- i guess they haven't quite played the gay marriage card yet, but they are basically saying like things are going to get worse, if you don't vote for us things will get worse, whereas the obama team says we think we can do this. we hope you believe us. please vote with us and we're going to make this better. and i do wonder which is going to work the best. i mean, we see some small upticks in optimism about the country. maybe that's a good thing for obama, but, you know, fear is not necessarily a losing card to play, and definitely they have doubled down on it and here i'm continuing to just go with metaphors as strong as i can. sorry. >> those are perfect. thank you both. >>> next, big bird shows us why debates really do matter. stay with us. >> we think he's probably going to come at m
tried to frame the election around, or the obama team tried to frame the election around last year and hope won. they're doing it again this year, the romney team is sort of playing into their hands in terms of making this about fear, fear about your religion being taken away, fear of unrest, fear of -- i guess they haven't quite played the gay marriage card yet, but they are basically saying like things are going to get worse, if you don't vote for us things will get worse, whereas the obama...
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he still loses the election. you can't just win on election day anymore. i mean, it starts this week, really. >> well, let's go to iowa where paul ryan will be campaigning today. "the des moines register" has the president leading 49% to 45% among likely voters, just 2% are undecided. those numbers are raising the stakes for the romney campaign ahead of wednesday's debate in denver. and right now expectations seem to be with the president. 55% of likely voters expect him to win the debate, according to polling from a the washington post and abc news. >> a poll that means absolutely nothing. >> it's good for romney. >> because he's got lower expectations. >> underdog. >> i guess so. >> and people could be surprised simply by seeing them side by side. i mean, the symbolism, the symbiotics i don't think can be overstated. seeing them side by side, if romney does well, i think he'll get a bump no matter what the sort of intricacies are. just side by side with the president in terms of stature and in terms of people thinking he can win, on equal footing. >> wil
he still loses the election. you can't just win on election day anymore. i mean, it starts this week, really. >> well, let's go to iowa where paul ryan will be campaigning today. "the des moines register" has the president leading 49% to 45% among likely voters, just 2% are undecided. those numbers are raising the stakes for the romney campaign ahead of wednesday's debate in denver. and right now expectations seem to be with the president. 55% of likely voters expect him to win...
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this is an election! are you kidding me? for the presidency of the united states of america and those are significant errors that governor romney made. pointing that out and pointing out not only in the prebuttal sort of substantive points made as well as, you know, the points about the gaffes which, again, goes back to something i was saying before. words matter. i mean, when you say russia is a geo political foe and forget about iran, that matters. seeking to be the president of united states of america it should not be too much to ask that you, i don't know, don't go to england and upset the british. that seems basic stuff. >> general, as we're a war weary nation and we have taken on the charge of what we have seen through iraq and afghanistan, juggling a lot of other foreign policy issues over the last 12 years, the tone that mitt romney strikes today, he needs to walk that fine balance and not sound warmongering as a lot of people reflected upon what the rnc, what the convention sounded like for certain speakers. >> wel
this is an election! are you kidding me? for the presidency of the united states of america and those are significant errors that governor romney made. pointing that out and pointing out not only in the prebuttal sort of substantive points made as well as, you know, the points about the gaffes which, again, goes back to something i was saying before. words matter. i mean, when you say russia is a geo political foe and forget about iran, that matters. seeking to be the president of united states...
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by the way, this isn't about this election. this is about what happens after this election. how does this president -- >> exactly. >> -- after saying to the republicans, i'm going to cut medicare, which, again, is a responsible thing to do, the only thing you can do if you want to save the program, how can this president then get re-elected and go back to boehner and go, you know what? i said i'd cut medicare, and then i demagogued it and attacked you guys on the campaign. >> well, in his own words, he said it's bad politics to not draw a distinction. now, there is somewhat of a distinction, in fairness, but he is proposing cutting medicare. and anyone -- this is not a economists from the left or the right. this is beyond politics. this is arithmetic, as bill clinton said. >> basic math. >> it's unsustainable. you've got to do something about it. >> it's about telling the truth. go ahead, sam. >> i think this was supported in your book, which is that at the time of that grand bargain, there was a lot of concern among democrats that paul ryan would come out with this budget,
by the way, this isn't about this election. this is about what happens after this election. how does this president -- >> exactly. >> -- after saying to the republicans, i'm going to cut medicare, which, again, is a responsible thing to do, the only thing you can do if you want to save the program, how can this president then get re-elected and go back to boehner and go, you know what? i said i'd cut medicare, and then i demagogued it and attacked you guys on the campaign. >>...
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the election was down to the wire. here's how tom brokaw reported the story the next day. >>> good evening from california. governor arnold schwarzenegger. even though the polls predicted it, a lot of people expected it, and even author wanted it, it still is a stunning development in american politics and for what it could mean across the country. governor gray davis lost the recall vote by 10 percentage points and schwarzenegger got half the votes cast for governor in a field with more than 100 other candidates. >> the people of california want me to be their governor. and i will do that. and nothing else. i will work as the governor, i will work as much as i can. even if it is around the clock. there will be more time for morevies or anything else, i will take this job very seriously. i will bring back the economy, i will bring back the jobs. i will clean up the environment. i will help with education and improve education. all of those issues we want to make sure that we concentrate on and work very hard to accompl
the election was down to the wire. here's how tom brokaw reported the story the next day. >>> good evening from california. governor arnold schwarzenegger. even though the polls predicted it, a lot of people expected it, and even author wanted it, it still is a stunning development in american politics and for what it could mean across the country. governor gray davis lost the recall vote by 10 percentage points and schwarzenegger got half the votes cast for governor in a field with...
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they matter in every election, they either reinforce a narrative in the election meaning we think we're going to vote for president obama. president obama does well in that debate and it reinforces that. or it reinforces the opposite. if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds. and he has to do it when the fact is, when this is republicans ignored. they know him. they don't like his policies. >> go ahead, joe. >> i think that chris makes a great point. the 1980, ronald reagan really changed the course of the debate and helped himself by saying to americans, think back, are you better off today than you were four years ago, is it easier to get a job, are there fewer of you that are unemployed and by getting the american folks to concentrate on that as opposed to how much they like president carter really helped. >> that's a variation of the question that the romney campa
they matter in every election, they either reinforce a narrative in the election meaning we think we're going to vote for president obama. president obama does well in that debate and it reinforces that. or it reinforces the opposite. if you're governor rom any, he did very well in the debates and i think president obama is a good debater, not a great debater, to be frank about it. but the expectations game and the reality of what he has to accomplish is he has to go out there and change minds....
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. >>> it is just five weeks until election day, and the stakes could not be higher. with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when he goes on a nostalgic riff. in this case the rocky mountains are just the right height. >> when avis boy my mom and dad used to read to me from a book called "men to match my mountains." perhaps we should change the title to "men and women to match my mountains" because right here men and women have matched the mountains of colorado. >> he's really working on the zingers. we see what you did there, mitt, adding women into the mix. nice. anything to do with the president's 18-point lead with women putting him four points above romney nationwide? no, i'm sure not. by the way, the same poll shows voters expect
. >>> it is just five weeks until election day, and the stakes could not be higher. with both candidates hunkered down in last-minute debate preparations. mitt romney is out in the mile high city carb loading at chipotle today. >> how are you doing? >> are you ready for tomorrow? >> hi there. getting there. how are you? >> getting there. just giving him another six years. indeed, you know what mitt romney's been working hard, maybe fighting for a little air when...
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this is a debate to win the election. i'm sorry, it may have been disappointing, but there was something else going on. you have the jobs numbers coming out at 8:30 this morning in just a couple of hours. you have a lot of other things at play, and he's in a certain position in this race. there must have been, as flummoxing as it was to watch, a strategy. what was it? >> i haven't said this for a very long time. i'll say it again, though. debates are where you show your depth of understanding about politics. i've seen 1,000 debates. i've participated in, you know, scores of debates. and you know immediately. you can just look around the stage at the people to the left and the right of you, how deep can they go? by the way, they pick up on your eyes while you're looking across at them. there were a couple guys where a guy was about to do a cheap shot on me, and i'd lean in and go, you want to? let's go. and they'd back off immediately. barack obama. it happened with hillary clinton time and time again where hillary clinton
this is a debate to win the election. i'm sorry, it may have been disappointing, but there was something else going on. you have the jobs numbers coming out at 8:30 this morning in just a couple of hours. you have a lot of other things at play, and he's in a certain position in this race. there must have been, as flummoxing as it was to watch, a strategy. what was it? >> i haven't said this for a very long time. i'll say it again, though. debates are where you show your depth of...